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Are the sounds between the MiniRaze and WaveRazor interchangeable? Can one synth use the sounds developed in the other?

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Not sure this is a "feature request"; perhaps this is better understood as a feature of both instruments, but the title says it all: are patches interchangeable? If so, it begs the question: is the only difference between the two synths in the GUI or is there a more "organic" difference?

Thanks much!

Dan
asked Feb 27, 2022 in Feature Requests by outland (310 points)

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Miniraze and Waverazor are not patch compatible.   They are different.   Granted, you can find most of the 'components' of Miniraze in Waverazor, but Miniraze has some hardwired connections that do not exist in Waverazor.    In summary, no, you cannot develop patches in one for the other.

The idea behind these products is that they are different ways of approaching MOK's synthesis:

Miniraze is a dialed-in topography using many of Waverazor's features, but it is designed to be fast to tweak and program sounds, using a familiar Minimoog-style subtractive UI.   The deeper Filter and EFX settings are dialed in under-the-hood for the most common use cases.  Miniraze also has the ability to send OSC3 to Filter FM, it also has the ability to use OSC2/3 as a RingMath Carrier/Modulator pair (though I do have plans to bring these features to Waverazor this year, but it will be in a less-hardwired way).

Waverazor gives you access to everything (in the Editor), you need to work for your patches, but you have a ton of flexibility in what you can do, and there are a lot of features in Waverazor that simply do not exist in Miniraze.  Waverazor has way more Filters and EFX to choose from, with access to all of the deep and nerdy parameters of those components.

I hope that helps explain how these two products are different.   As we use the same oscillator in both products, I can see how it might appear that these are different flavors of the same thing, and in some scenarios they are very similar and in others they aren't so much.    If you want quick access to a lot of sounds and sound banks from a lot of great programmers, Miniraze is the way to go.   If you enjoy the deep dive and creating sounds nobody has ever heard, Waverazor is your tool.    And depending on your inspiration at any given time, they can both sit alongside each other in the toolbox.
answered Feb 27, 2022 by rob (14,780 points)
edited Feb 28, 2022 by rob
Thanks so much for your answer. I have not yet DL'ed the MiniRaze demo, so I appreciate everything you relate here. Thanks also for the complete nature of your comment; it really foes go quite a ways to dealing with the issues behind my note. I'll DL the MiniRaze demo now and get the flavor of its approach firsthand.

Thanks again,

Dan
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